The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles.
I didn’t know that was the reason for implementing celibacy, which is clearly unbiblical.
But so many Catholic church doctrines are unbiblical, which began at their inception, during the first few hundred years after Christ.
Right relationship with Christ and others is real Christianity, the abiding in Christ that Jesus talks about in John 15 and elsewhere. The CC is more about rituals, instead of overcoming sin by God’s grace, by the Holy Spirit’s enablement.
Saying hail Mary’s to Mary is meaningless, but they’ve gotten millions to believe such nonsense.
Paul said the Bereans were noble because they eagerly received what Paul said and checked out daily in the scriptures to make sure he was telling them the truth.
The Catholic church says CC leadership determines what is true, and the people get no say, nor can they question.
The CC is like a cult, with hardly any members actually following Christ to be free.
And the idea of an infallible pope isn’t biblical at all.
It’s doctrines of demons giving people false hope that they’re actually going to heaven without following Christ, without being led by the Holy Spirit.
The current deceptions in the evangelical churches seem to be equally affective.
Jesus said the road is narrow and few find it.
May we all find the way and stay on it during these tough times ahead.
I believe a spiritual revival will be so awesome that many will be soaring spiritually in Christ “that the world will know” — Jesus’ prayer in John 17. The glory of the Lord will be strong as many do what the Holy Spirit has been prompting them to do, but most have been taking the easy way out by not getting right with those they’ve hurt, so they can be free — confessing their sins to one another, like the Bible says, not to a priest.
Priests were done away with after Jesus’ death and Pentecost.
The Catholic church is messed up big-time!
I hope people see through this, including Mel Gibson. In reading what you wrote, I was thinking of his father especially, who practices the pre-Vatican II rituals. I just looked him up, and he is age-99!
I hope Mel Gibson gets back on track, and stands up to the you know who’s, instead of going along to get along.
It appears that you have swallowed the Protestant hatred for Catholics. Catholics DO NOT “worship” saints or Mary. Saints are looked upon as “good examples” of how to live a chaste life–nothing more…True pre-Vatican II Catholicism is more in line with the true nature of Christianity.
I don’t hate anyone. One cannot be a true Christian and hate people.
And I don’t see how most non-Catholics today are ‘protestants.’ Perhaps that was true in Luther’s day, but most evangelicals don’t think about Catholicism much at all, including myself.
I started my blogs 10 years ago. An average of 5 posts per year on Catholicism is nothing compared to the thousands I’ve posted on problems with current evangelicalism. Most evangelicals have swallowed the false doctrine of once-saved-always-saved and ‘Christian’ Zionism, so most evangelicals aren’t following Christ too.
I usually only post on Catholicism if I just happen to see something interesting on the net worth sharing. I consider it a huge deception, and one in awhile try to help people see this. My focus is on other things though, especially how to get real Christianity happening, which is the main focus of my spiritual blog.
Prayers to Mary are very prevalent today, and started in the 4th century when Constantine made Christianity the state religion, and mixed paganism and Christianity. This has links to my other articles on this too:
Catholicism bases their doctrine on what the hierarchy (including the popes) states is true, instead of what the Bible states is true. There is no way one would read the New Testament and come out a Catholic. Catholicism isn’t anywhere close to what the apostles believed, practiced and taught.
anarchyst
The “beginning of the end” of Catholicism was sealed with the infiltration of the Catholic Church “Vatican II Ecumenical Council” of the 1960s by Jews and Protestants.
Much Catholic ritual was discarded, as well as the promotion of the absolution of the Jews for Jesus Christ’s crucifixion and death, despite vitriolic Jewish hatred of Jesus Christ which exists to this day. The fact is, the Jews DID get the Romans to crucify Jesus Christ and DID accept full responsibility for the crucifixion and death of Jesus Christ. As is the case today, they got others (Pontius Pilate) do do their “dirty work” for them…
Abandoning the use of Latin in the Mass destroyed its “universality”. Previous to Vatican II, one could attend Mass anywhere in the Roman Catholic world and understand the meaning of the Mass.
Prohibition of the celebration of the Tridentine Mass (except by special ecclesiastical permission) pushed many Catholics away from the new “Modern Mass” and the New Church, in general…It took a brave Cardinal Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X to “push back” against Vatican II and re-legitimize the celebration of the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass and other Catholic rites.
In pre-Vatican II times, the priest (celebrant of the Mass) was considered to be a part of the congregation, and a representative of the people.
By turning the priest around to face the congregation, the priest was no longer a representative, but an “actor”, diminishing his status and importance.
One area where the Catholic Church could improve itself involves celibacy, which is NOT Church “dogma” or doctrine. Celibacy was put in place during the middle ages in order to keep Church property from being inherited by family and relatives of priests and bishops. Celibacy was based on purely financial considerations–nothing more. It is interesting to note that Episcopal (Anglican) priests who convert to Catholicism can bring their families with them to the Church while Roman Catholic priests are denied marriage.
It was a grave mistake by the Church to de-legitimize celebration of pre-Vatican II principles.
Jeff Fenske
I didn’t know that was the reason for implementing celibacy, which is clearly unbiblical.
But so many Catholic church doctrines are unbiblical, which began at their inception, during the first few hundred years after Christ.
Right relationship with Christ and others is real Christianity, the abiding in Christ that Jesus talks about in John 15 and elsewhere. The CC is more about rituals, instead of overcoming sin by God’s grace, by the Holy Spirit’s enablement.
Saying hail Mary’s to Mary is meaningless, but they’ve gotten millions to believe such nonsense.
Paul said the Bereans were noble because they eagerly received what Paul said and checked out daily in the scriptures to make sure he was telling them the truth.
The Catholic church says CC leadership determines what is true, and the people get no say, nor can they question.
The CC is like a cult, with hardly any members actually following Christ to be free.
And the idea of an infallible pope isn’t biblical at all.
It’s doctrines of demons giving people false hope that they’re actually going to heaven without following Christ, without being led by the Holy Spirit.
The current deceptions in the evangelical churches seem to be equally affective.
Jesus said the road is narrow and few find it.
May we all find the way and stay on it during these tough times ahead.
I believe a spiritual revival will be so awesome that many will be soaring spiritually in Christ “that the world will know” — Jesus’ prayer in John 17. The glory of the Lord will be strong as many do what the Holy Spirit has been prompting them to do, but most have been taking the easy way out by not getting right with those they’ve hurt, so they can be free — confessing their sins to one another, like the Bible says, not to a priest.
Priests were done away with after Jesus’ death and Pentecost.
The Catholic church is messed up big-time!
I hope people see through this, including Mel Gibson. In reading what you wrote, I was thinking of his father especially, who practices the pre-Vatican II rituals. I just looked him up, and he is age-99!
I hope Mel Gibson gets back on track, and stands up to the you know who’s, instead of going along to get along.
God bless!
Jeff
anarchyst
Papal infallibility is very narrowly defined and is only applicable in matters of doctrine and faith–NOT temporal matters.
Jeff Fenske
By the way, I have 55 posts in my ‘The Catholic Deception’ category at my spiritual site, if you’re interested: https://onecanhappen.com/category/the-catholic-deception-•-one
anarchyst
It appears that you have swallowed the Protestant hatred for Catholics. Catholics DO NOT “worship” saints or Mary. Saints are looked upon as “good examples” of how to live a chaste life–nothing more…True pre-Vatican II Catholicism is more in line with the true nature of Christianity.
Jeff Fenske
I don’t hate anyone. One cannot be a true Christian and hate people.
And I don’t see how most non-Catholics today are ‘protestants.’ Perhaps that was true in Luther’s day, but most evangelicals don’t think about Catholicism much at all, including myself.
I started my blogs 10 years ago. An average of 5 posts per year on Catholicism is nothing compared to the thousands I’ve posted on problems with current evangelicalism. Most evangelicals have swallowed the false doctrine of once-saved-always-saved and ‘Christian’ Zionism, so most evangelicals aren’t following Christ too.
I usually only post on Catholicism if I just happen to see something interesting on the net worth sharing. I consider it a huge deception, and one in awhile try to help people see this. My focus is on other things though, especially how to get real Christianity happening, which is the main focus of my spiritual blog.
Prayers to Mary are very prevalent today, and started in the 4th century when Constantine made Christianity the state religion, and mixed paganism and Christianity. This has links to my other articles on this too:
Dating the FIRST PRAYER TO MARY ‘Sub Tuum Praesidium’ — Despite the eagerness of Roman Catholic apologists to establish that their veneration of Mary has ancient precedent, marian veneration is a merely human tradition, one that begin to flourish in the FOURTH CENTURY
Catholicism bases their doctrine on what the hierarchy (including the popes) states is true, instead of what the Bible states is true. There is no way one would read the New Testament and come out a Catholic. Catholicism isn’t anywhere close to what the apostles believed, practiced and taught.
Jeff