(vid) Detailed Machine Gun Sound Analysis – Las Vegas Mass Shooting — 13:25 "That's guaranteed two shooters, minimum" • 09:55 "If you listen carefully, you're going to hear BELT FED, automatic weapons going off from two different locations from two different sounds" • 11:07 "The shooter is close. See that high pitched sound? You would not hear that from 500 meters"

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First, I’d like to comment regarding a theory some are suggesting (not the video producer here) online that machine gun fire sounds were played through the PA. If so, why would they sound like larger caliber “belt guns,” instead of the AK-47 types they’re trying to demonize? Also, enough people close to the speakers could tell it was coming from the speakers and would have said something. The powers that be know we’d see through that.
The official, MSM repeated, one-shooter theory is falling apart already, big-time! Real, citizen investigators are right now figuring out what really happened.
Thank God for them, and thank God for those who took these videos!
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My Notes
Genesis CNC says:
09:55 “If you listen carefully, you’re going to hear BELT FED, automatic weapons going off from two different locations from two different sounds.”
11:07 “The shooter is close. See that high pitched sound? You would not hear that from 500 meters.”
10:55 bullet zings by
11:55 Shooter further away. The sound is further away, not high pitched at all. The higher frequencies of sound drop with distance.
13:25 “That’s guaranteed two shooters, minimum.”
He then tells that a suppressor is not a silencer. It baffles the sound to make it difficult to track its location.
19:00 He enlarges the video and plays it again to show the 7.62mm belt gun from the distance and the shorter bursts of the suppressed smaller caliber weapons (M4s, he seems to think) that are nearby.
24:30 Begins talk about angles
29:16 “500 meters (distance), belt fled, full auto, raining down on you from the 32nd floor, he’s got to break the threshold*. You’re going to see him.”
* The threshold: he basically says the higher up a shooter is in stories the closer to the window he needs to be to be able to shoot downward. The further into the room he is the harder it is to see the muzzle flash. It would be easier to conceal the flash from lower floors.

Genesis CNC writes in a comment:

Did not mention in the video, but Cyclic Rate of Fire is critical to evaluate here:

Rate of fire in this situation can act like an acoustic signature, see below:

M4 Carbine Cyclical Rate of Fire:

Rate of Fire (Cyclic)
700-900 rounds per minute
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ground/m4-specs.htm

M249 Cyclic Rate:

Hot barrel
200 rds or more in two minutes or less (any rate of fire)
Sustained rate 500 rds fired within ten minutes
Rapid rate 200 rds fired within two minutes
Cyclic rate 850 rds fired within one minute
http://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B3M4138%20M249%20Light%20Machine%20Gun.pdf?ver=2015-05-07-103752-850

M240B Cyclic Rate:

Sustained rate of fire 100 rpm
Rapid rate of fire 200 rpm
Cyclic rate of fire 650 rpm
http://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/TBS/B3M4178%20M240B%20Medium%20Machine%20Gun.pdf?ver=2016-01-13-100405-943

M60 Cyclic Rate:

What are the sustained, rapid and cyclic rates of fire for the M60?
Sustained– 100
Rapid –200
Cyclic –550
http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/m60/m60-study-guide.shtml

Genesis CNC writes in a comment:

Sound Pitch and Rate of Fire between the automatic fire (1:11 through 1:21) is totally different than (11:06 through 11:26), if you are unable to discern the difference then we cannot help you.

At the (13:11 though 12:32) – Best guess is the burst fire is coming from a suppressed M4 running subsonic ammunition, fired from a position of cover and concealment very close as subsonic rounds are unstable. Something like this: https://youtu.be/wc0EQ4quVQQ

In the comments being held for idiocy, ignorance, or general trolling behavior, there seems to be significant confusion (Paid Troll / Shill or Genuine Ignoramus) on the acoustics; specifically the echo and also behavior of supersonic vs subsonic, and sounds associated with the sound barrier.

Here is a simple video which explains the acoustic difference between suppressed subsonic and suppressed supersonic fire: https://youtu.be/Icrm9m9bRpY

The key to understanding this issue:

1. Understand the Cyclical Rate Variation between weapon systems – the “Acoustic Signature”
2. Understand the Change in Sound specific to the “Origin of Fire”
3. Recognize and Identify Changes in “Rates of Fire” or “Cyclic Rates”
4. Recognize and Identify Changes in the Sounds directly resulting from different firing locations. Here is another example video, again, of two different firing locations, if you are unable to determine for yourself the fact there are two separate locations, then we cannot help you…https://youtu.be/fEf7HObspB0
5. Two different Cyclic Rates taking place concurrently is conclusive evidence of multiple shooters, multiple weapon systems, from multiple locations. You will hear the evidence for this At the (13:11 though 12:32) of this video.
6. The idea of a “Bump Fire” or “Gatling Device” on a modified AR-15 is a joke (As stated Earlier) – It is possible this could have been used as “Acoustical Cover” for the precision bursts of one or more suppressed weapon systems firing subsonic ammunition from a very close position. (As Stated Below) In the below Interview, Mike Cronk provides the statement that his “buddy” was shot 3x in the chest. This type of wound pattern is entirely inconsistent with a “bump fire” slide on an AR-15 from 518M Distance (Meaning Impossible)…and is entirely consistent with the suppressed
controlled bursts at shorter range identified in this video. https://youtu.be/6jvITJEm_jw
7. Echo is just that…an echo…an echo will not introduce concurrent conflicting cyclic rates of fire…sorry, but no. Two separated firing positions are easily discernible from an echo…if you cannot discern between the two, then again, we cannot help you…
8. There are active trolls pushing false explanations, trying hard to muddy the water, so beware. Use common sense.
9. Download this and other videos, share links, then repeat the process.
10. We desperately need first hand testimony of the entry and exit wounds of the dead and wounded (Impact Groupings, Bullet Spread, Caliber, etc..) from First Responders, EMT, Police Officers on the Scene, Fire Fighters, ER Nurse, ER PAs, ER MDs, etc…from those who personally treated the dead and / or wounded. If you are out there please provide your detailed testimony ASAP. (there is no reason for this to be withheld or classified information). – Share with anyone who can provide first hand detailed testimony specific to the entry and exit wound patterns.

Genesis CNC writes in a comment:

We need first hand testimony from First Responders and Emergency Room Personnel (Doctors, Nurses, Nurse Practitioners, etc…) We need specifics on Wound Patterns (Entry and Exit Wounds). Please forward the link to this video to anyone with first hand knowledge.
In the below Interview, Mike Cronk provides the statement that his “buddy” was shot 3x in the chest. This type of wound pattern is entirely inconsistent with a “bump fire” slide on an AR-15 from 518M Distance (Meaning Impossible)…and is entirely consistent with the suppressed controlled bursts at shorter range identified in this video.

Questions for Mike Cronk:

What is the spread on the 3 bullet entry wounds in your buddy’s chest?
How large were the Exit Wounds?
Where is your “Buddy” now?
What is your “Buddy’s” Name?
etc…etc…

Link to Video: https://youtu.be/6jvITJEm_jw

Anyone out there with access to this type of information…now is the time to provide all the information you have…every detail.

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