Alex Jones is a talk show host trying to wake up people to tyranny being brought upon US by the globalists. He sees what is going on with ‘Christians’ too, who have been key supporters of globalist candidates like President George W. Bush, who have thrashed our country and the Constitution, just like Obama is doing.
The unbiblical pre-trib rapture doctrine is one of the main psyop ways Satan is able to convince ‘Christians’ that they don’t really have to follow Christ. Thus, America is falling fast, and it won’t be pretty for anyone.
The ‘Christians’ won’t get taken out before things get really bad.
I put ‘Christians’ in quotes, because most really aren’t, biblically. Most ‘Christians’ wouldn’t go even if there was a pre-trib rapture. See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?
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“Most of you [pre-trib-rapture-believing ‘Christians’]
are a bunch of torture loving,
war loving people,
who go along with tyranny,
and then never go out and protest abortion
because the world is ending next week.
It’s a big, sickening, psyop cop out.”
– Alex Jones
Transcribed by Jeff Fenske
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[Great show with Alex Jones. Saw the following on the net. You guys should carry MacPherson’s “The Rapture Plot.”]
Hidden behind the rapture date-setting fizzle of May 21, 2011 is one of the greatest untold religion stories of all time!
Of course “rapture” to 50 million American evangelicals is the “pretribulation rapture view” – a secret return of Christ said to occur several years before the final Second Coming to earth – but most are unaware that it was never a part of any Christian theology before 1830. And their leaders fight hard to cover up recently uncovered facts about its shady 181-year-old history – facts about its rampant plagiarism, devious revisionism of early “rapture” documents, and other dishonesty that journalist/historian Dave MacPherson (known as the “Rush Limbaugh of the Rapture”) has been uncovering since 1968.
The mainstream media have somehow overlooked his highly endorsed research even though No. 1 religion expert Dr. Martin Marty featured it in 1980 in Christian Century and said that Time or Newsweek should air it. And even though rapture promoters like Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye have published their muddied-up versions of it. And even though Bill Moyers touched on it in 2005 in the Minneapolis paper in his article “There is No Tomorrow” which mentioned the “fantastical theology concocted in the 19th century by a couple of immigrant preachers” who have “captivated the imagination of millions of Americans.”
If this fringe-British-invented “pretrib rapture” escapism had never existed, American fundies could never have had fun (or built fortunes) with their mega-selling books and date-setting games. MacPherson’s bestselling nonfiction book “The Rapture Plot” is in libraries and bookstores, and his many articles on Yahoo, MSN etc. include “Pretrib Rapture Politics” (showing how anti-Catholic, anti-Jewish, and anti-Muslim the rapture is!) and also “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty.”
PRETRIB RAPTURE STEALTH !
Many evangelicals believe that Christ will “rapture” them to heaven years before the second coming and (most importantly) well BEFORE Antichrist and his “tribulation.” But Acts 2:34, 35 reveal that Jesus is at the Father’s right hand in heaven until He leaves to destroy His earthly foes at the second coming. And Acts 3:21 says that Jesus “must” stay in heaven with the Father “until the times of restitution of all things” which includes, says Scofield, “the restoration of the theocracy under David’s Son” which obviously can’t begin before or during Antichrist’s reign. (“The Rapture Question,” by the long time No. 1 pretrib authority John Walvoord, didn’t dare to even list, in its scripture index, the above verses! They were also too hot for John Darby – the so-called “father of dispensationalism” – to list in the scripture index in his “Letters”!)
Paul explains the “times and the seasons” (I Thess. 5:1) of the catching up (I Thess. 4:17) as the “day of the Lord” (5:2) which FOLLOWS the posttrib sun/moon darkening (Matt. 24:29; Acts 2:20) WHEN “sudden destruction” (5:3) of the wicked occurs! The “rest” for “all them that believe” is also tied to such destruction in II Thess. 1:6-10! (If the wicked are destroyed before or during the trib, who’d be left alive to serve the Antichrist?) Paul also ties the change-into-immortality “rapture” (I Cor. 15:52) to the end of trib “death” (15:54). (Will death be ended before or during the trib? Of course not! And vs. 54 is also tied to Isa. 25:8 which Scofield views as Israel’s posttrib resurrection!) It’s amazing that the Olivet Discourse contains the “great commission” for the church but not even a hint of a pretrib rapture for the church!
Many don’t know that before 1830 all Christians had always viewed I Thess. 4’s “catching up” as an integral part of the final second coming to earth. In 1830 this “rapture” was stretched forward and turned into an idolized separate coming of Christ. To further strengthen their novel view, which evangelical scholars overwhelmingly rejected throughout the 1800s, pretrib teachers in the early 1900s began to stretch forward the “day of the Lord” (what Darby and Scofield never dared to do) and hook it up with their already-stretched-forward “rapture.” Many leading evangelical scholars still weren’t convinced of pretrib, so pretrib teachers then began teaching that the “falling away” of II Thess. 2:3 is really a pretrib rapture (the same as saying that the “rapture” in 2:3 must happen before the “rapture” [“gathering”] in 2:1 can happen – the height of desperation!). Google “Walvoord Melts Ice” for more on this.
Other Google articles on the 183-year-old pretrib rapture view include “X-Raying Margaret,” “Margaret Macdonald’s Rapture Chart,” “Pretrib Rapture’s Missing Lines,” “Edward Irving is Unnerving,” “The Unoriginal John Darby,” “Catholics Did NOT Invent the Rapture,” “The Real Manuel Lacunza,” “Thomas Ice (Bloopers),” “Wily Jeffrey,” “The Rapture Index (Mad Theology),” “America’s Pretrib Rapture Traffickers,” “Roots of (Warlike) Christian Zionism,” “Scholars Weigh My Research,” “Pretrib Hypocrisy,” “Appendix F: Thou Shalt Not Steal,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Deceiving and Being Deceived,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty,” “Famous Rapture Watchers,” and “Morgan Edwards’ Rapture View” – most by the author of the bestselling book “The Rapture Plot” (the most accurate and documented book on pretrib rapture history which is obtainable by calling 800.643.4645).
/ Howdy, Jeff. Great blog that you have. Found the above on the surprising web. Enjoy. /
Hal Lindsey’s Pretrib Rapture “Proof”
Is Hal Lindsey’s proof for a pretrib rapture “100 proof” – that is, 100 percent Biblical?
In “The Late Great Planet Earth” (p. 143) Lindsey gives his “chief reason” for pretrib: “If the Rapture took place at the same time as the second coming, there would be no mortals left who would be believers” – that is, no believers still alive who could enter the millennium and repopulate the earth.
We don’t know if Lindsey’s amnesia is voluntary or involuntary, but earlier (p. 54), while focusing on chapters 12 through 14 of Zechariah, Lindsey sees “a remnant of Jews in Jerusalem” who are mortals who will become believing mortals at the second coming and then become repopulating mortals!
During the same discussion of Zech. 12-14 Lindsey overlooks some of the final verses in Zech. 14. They reveal that some of the tribulation survivors “of all the nations which came against Jerusalem” will refuse to go there “to worship the King, the Lord of hosts.” Here’s what will happen to those “heathen” rebels: “upon them shall be no rain.”
So the facts about the repopulating mortals, in unbelieving as well as believing ranks, cancel out Lindsey’s “chief reason” for opposing a joint rapture/second coming – the ONLY rapture view to be found in official theology books and organized churches prior to 1830!
(See historian Dave MacPherson’s “The Rapture Plot,” the most accurate and most highly endorsed book on pretrib rapture history – available by calling 800.643.4645. Also Google “Pretrib Rapture Stealth,” “Pretrib Rapture Pride,” “Pretrib Rapture Secrecy,” “Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty” and “Evangelicals Use Occult Deception.”)
Although Hal Lindsey claims that his “Late Great” didn’t set a date for Christ’s return, many of his followers – including copycats Bill Maupin (“1981”) and Edgar Whisenant (“1988”) – did view Lindsey as a date-setter, and his later book “The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon” (the sort of title that date-setters and their ga-ga groupies love) became another fizzle – unless we’re still living in the 1980s!
In Old Testament days false prophets were stoned to death. Today they’re just stoned!
[Above submitted by Rocky2]