[video] In-studio with Infowarrior Alex Jones: Pastor Anderson Reveals Pre-Trib Rapture Deception — "Before the year 1830, EVERY denomination, every type of Christianity taught that the rapture took place AFTER the tribulation, because that's what the Bible explicitly says."

Excellent discussion!
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“Before the year 1830, EVERY denomination, every type of Christianity taught that the rapture took place AFTER the tribulation, because that’s what the Bible explicitly says….”

– Pastor Steven Anderson

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p-YsXAFlv8]Pastor Anderson Reveals Pre-Trib Rapture Deception

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Published on Feb 2, 2013

Alex talks with Pastor Steven Anderson in-studio today. He is featured in the film, After The Tribulation, available at the Infowars Store. Mr. Anderson was viciously tasered and assaulted by Border Patrol agents a couple years back for protesting at a Constitution free-zone checkpoint.
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  1. Please read this this is the story I would like to do for you ! This is the booke of Daniel
    THERE ARE TWO DOCTRINES THAT 99% OF ALL CHRISTIAN’S NEVER HERD OF ,
    I’M SO CONFIDENT, I WILL PAY YOU 10, 000 DOLLARS !!!, IF YOU CAN PROVE IT OTHER WISE , THIS IS ONLY GOOD UP TO TRIBULATION. IF YOUR SICK OF RELIGION AND IF YOUR LOOKING TO LEARN SOMETHING’S ONLY FEW PEOPLE IN THE WORLD KNOW ,YOU HAVE COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE ! Here are a few. BUT I HAVE MANY MORE .
    1. How can you tell true doctrine from antichrist doctrine ???
    2. Have you heard of the other Jesus doctrine?? it’s in the bible, the bible tells why, you haven’t heard of these two doctrines? , 3. The real truth about Darwin’s theory , 4.There real truth about bible codes ,
    5 .The truth about prophecy
    6. PROOF WE DID COME FROM ONE RACE !
    JESUS said he’s coming for his Church, and only his Church .
    There are over 2,000 so called Christian churches in the world , and there doctrines are very different , almost all of them deny Christ (prosegomy – Greek means to utterly deny, utterly contradict, to disown ( Christ) , to contradict (Christ) . As you will see Denying Christ is the same as blasphemy (blasphemeo) In the Greek means to call God, or the word of god a liar. We are the only church In the world . That shows you how to know the difference from false doctrine and true doctrine, BROTHER FOLLOWING FALSE DOCTRINE IS BLASPHEMY !! Because only the elect can perceive the Law of doctrine or teach it .
    The Law of Doctrine,
    True doctrine is in the bible two or more times if he that the cometh preaching another Jesus, whom and we have not preached another spirit and a gospel ! I feared you might follow them. 2 corth 11;3 For such or false apostles deceitful workers transforming themselves to apostles of Christ . I know for fact 99% of the so called Christian churches can not preach that doctrine, there is a reason why ,see the Chapter Antichrist Doctrine. God said (GOD1 John 2;22 Who is a liar but he that deneth (arneomai-to utterly contradict Christ) that Jesus is Christ ?- He-(preachers do this every day on TV and on every corner in your naber hood !! ) is Antichrist that denieth (contradict) the Father . Now that being said Many people think just because they know Jesus existence that they can go to heaven , who ever told them that is Antichrist !!! Do you disagree?? Satan and fallen angles,and demands know that also !! Has that saved them are you from hell ??, of course not !!! Rev22;18 For I testify unto every man that hearth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add (add man made doctrines) unto these things God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. The worst part of hell !!! 2 John 9.whosoever transgresseth and abideth not in the doctrines of Christ, hath not God !! Is this clear to you ?? can you see how the Law works ? 2 Peter 1;20 No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. (idiottase?-not to be supported by law,where we get the word idiot or stupid) 2 Peter 1;21 For the prophecy(the words of Gods laws) came not of old time by the will of man ( like denominations);but holy men of god spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit .( see this is an admittance that men through the Holy Spirit wrote the bible , there are more witnesses see chapter Jesus is GOD.
    THE LAW OF DOCTRINE , IN THE MOUTH OF TWO ARE MORE WITNESSES.
    THE TRUE DOCTRINE- (CONFESSING-homologeo, in one accord , to confess, declare admit , deep conviction of facts TO AGREE WITH OR TO BE OF THE SAME MIND, THERE BY THE ANSWER TO THE TRUTH OF THE LAW OF DOCTRINE !!!
    Matthew 18:16 But if he will not listen, take one or two others … … But if he hear thee not, take with thee one or two more, that at the mouth
    of two witnesses or three every word may be established. – TO MADE A FACT
    OR TO BE MADE A LAW !!
    Deuteronomy 17:6
    At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy of death be put to death; but at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death.
    Deuteronomy 17:5-7 (in Context) Deuteronomy 17 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    Deuteronomy 19:15
    One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
    Deuteronomy 19:14-16 (in Context) Deuteronomy 19 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    Ruth 4:11
    And all the people that were in the gate, and the elders, said, We are witnesses. The Lord make the woman that is come into thine house like Rachel and like Leah, which two did build the house of Israel: and do thou worthily in Ephratah, and be famous in Bethlehem:
    Ruth 4:10-12 (in Context) Ruth 4 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    Matthew 18:16
    But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
    Matthew 18:15-17 (in Context) Matthew 18 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    Matthew 26:60
    But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses,
    Matthew 26:59-61 (in Context) Matthew 26 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    2 Corinthians 13:1
    This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
    2 Corinthians 13:1-3 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 13 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    1 Timothy 5:19
    Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
    1 Timothy 5:18-20 (in Context) 1 Timothy 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    Hebrews 10:28
    He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
    Hebrews 10:27-29 (in Context) Hebrews 10 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
    Prov.25 ;2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing, but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.(salvation !)
    JOHN 18;37 THOU SAYEST THAT I AM KING . TO THIS END WAS I BORN AND FOR THIS CAUSE CAME I INTO THIS WORLD, THAT I SHOULD BARE WITNESS UNTO THE TRUTH , EVERYONE THAT IS OF THE TRUTH HEARETH MY VOICE. (GOD IS THE GOD OF ORDER,THIS WORDS IS THE LAW ! THE LAW OF DOCTRINE IS THE FOUNDATION OF HIS WORD = LAW )
    JUST LIKE 2+2=4 , 95% Most all people follow the doctrine that the caching away are the rapture as thy call it to day ,that the rapture will happen be fore tribulation starts !! Well that’s country to what the bible said !! please get your bible , there not disagree with me, but God !!
    Matt 24;29-30 (When??) Immediately after tribulation ,the sun,moon and stars shall be darkened (at noon) and the stars shall fall.
    ;30 and then shall appear (porusia ?- physical appearance as prophesied) the sign (prophecies be fulfilled ) of the Son of man in heaven and all the world shall see him coming in the clouds with power and glory .
    ;31 and then his angles with a trumpet sound (7th) shall gather his elect from the four winds( north ,south,east and west .
    Mark 13;24-27 But in those days after tribulation , the sun, and moon will be darkened and the stars shall
    ;25 and the stars shall fall and the heavens shaken ( polar shift ) ;26 And then they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory !!
    ;27 and then he shall send his angles to the four winds to gather his elect !! 1 Corth 15;51-52 Behold , I show you a mystery ,we shall not all sleep , but we all shall be changed , ;52 In a moment , in the twinkling of an eye ., at the last trump , for the trump shall sound , and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed .
    NOW CAN YOU SEE ?? THIS IS THE FOUNDATION GOD HAD LAID THAT NO OTHER CAN LAY !! Now according to the Law of doctrine being in the bible two or more times, that’s way they repeats it self !!, In order to prove its self !! As you will see please read antichrist doctrine chapter.2+2=4 same thang here !! Now anything country to true doctrin this is antichrist .
    THE DOCTRINE OF DENYING CHRIST ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF TWO ARE MORE WITNESSES . AND WHO IS ANTICHRIST
    DENY – APARNEOMAI – TO CONTRADICT A PERSON OR GOD, TO CALL A LIER , TO DISOWN AND TO UTTERLY CONTRADICT ( CHRIST ) OR TO DENY ONES SELF .
    SUCH AS SAY WHEN I BELIEVED THE RAPTURE WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BEFORE TRIBULATION , I FOUND OUT THAT DOCTRINE WAS ANTICHRIST BECAUSE IT DENIED CHRIST, EVEN CONTRADICTING CHRIST !! AS YOU SEE ABOVE I DIED TO SELF, AND BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD IS TRUE AND MEN ARE LIARS !! I REPENTED !! BECAUSE I FEAR GOD, I HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT , THERE ARE NO !!!! CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE BUT THE ANTICHRIST AND HIS MINISTER’S DO!!! , CONTRADICT CHRIST, AND HAVE FOR TWO THOUSAND YEARS !! PLEASE READ ALL THE ANTICHRIST DOCTRINES .

  2. Irv

    [Hello, Jeff. Enclosing a web item I saw recently. Ice etc. claim that Morgan Edwards was a pretrib, but they’ve covered up that Edwards placed his rapture AT the Matt. 24 coming – pure posttrib!]
    Morgan Edwards’ Rapture View
    by George Wilson
    In 1995, in a 24-page booklet on 18th century pastor Morgan Edwards, evangelist John Bray claimed that Edwards taught a pretrib rapture in his 1788 book titled “Two Academical Exercises….”
    Those echoing Bray include Thomas Ice who wrote “Morgan Edwards: Another Pre-Darby Rapturist.” Edwards’ 1788 work can be found on the internet.
    In order to claim that Edwards held to pretrib, candidates for the I-can-find-pretrib-earlier-in-church-history-than-you-can medal – including Bray, Ice, LaHaye, Frank Marotta etc. – have intentionally covered up Edwards’ “historicism,” his belief that the tribulation had already been going on for hundreds of years. (How can anyone in the tribulation go back in time and look for a pretrib rapture?)
    Here’s proof of Edwards’ historicism and its companion “day-year” theory which can view the 1260 tribulation “days” as “years.”
    On p. 14 Edwards described the Ottoman Empire (which was then already 400 years old) as the Rev. 13:11 “beast.” On p. 20 he defined “Antichrist” as the already 1000-year-old “popery” and the “succession of persons” known as “Popes” – his other Rev. 13 “beast.” He necessarily viewed Rev. 13’s 1260-day period as 1260 literal years in order to provide enough time for his two “beasts.”
    On p. 19, while discussing “the ministry of the witnesses” of Rev. 11, he allotted “about 204 years” for their “years to perform” – years impossible to fit into a 3.5-year period!
    What about Edwards’ rapture? On pp. 21-23 he wrote about “the appearing of the son of man in the clouds, coming to raise the dead saints and change the living, and to catch them up to himself….The signs of Christ’s appearing in the clouds will be extraordinary ‘wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes and famines,’ &. (Matth. xxiv. 6-8.)….The signs of his coming, in the heavens will be ‘the trump of God [I Thess. 4:16], vapor and smoke, which will darken the sun and moon [Matt. 24:29],’…and also cause those meteors called ‘falling stars’….
    Right after his combined rapture/advent (!), Edwards said: “And therefore, now, Antichrist…will…counterfeit the preceding wonders in heaven…causing ‘fire to come down from heaven’….And that godhead he will now assume, after killing the two witnesses….Now the great persecution of the Jews will begin…for time, times, and half a time….”
    Thomas Ice’s article on Edwards (listed at start) quoted only the first 27 words in the above quotation which end with “to himself” – and you can see why pretrib defender Ice stopped quoting there! (For an Ice-covered piece, Google “Pretrib Rapture Pride.”)
    Not only had most of Edwards’ historicist tribulation occurred before his combined rapture/advent, but incredibly his Antichrist kept raging for 3.5 years even after the Matt. 24 signs! No wonder his tutor advised him to correct his thesis!
    To read Edwards’ complete work, Google “[PDF] Two Academical Exercises…www.breadoflifebiblestudy.com.”
    For more info on Edwards, Google “McPherson Page (thebibletruth.org).” Also Google “Deceiving and Being Deceived” by historian Dave MacPherson.

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