The entire interview is almost 3 hours at Spotify. Nice of Joe to post a little over half here.             

“If you want to make somebody feel better you tell them the truth. If you want to make yourself look better you tell them what they want to hear.” – Dr. Phil

12,121,000 views Streamed live on Feb 26, 2019

Dr. Phil McGraw is an author, psychologist, and the host of the television show “Dr. Phil.”