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(video) Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians Expected to Be Pro-War All the Time

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1kDMtRfJso]Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians

Ron Paul discusses the concern of so many Pro-life Evangelical Christians being sold that …. Well. You watch it.

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Ron Paul: Christian Just War Theory — “Evidently, I have been reading a different Bible. I remember something about ‘Blessed are the Peacemakers’”

Ron Paul’s Biggest Eye-Opener: ‘Christian’ Evangelicals Pushing Preemptive War in the Name of Spreading Christian ‘Love’

(video) Ron Paul Booed by Reverse-Christian Debate Audience for Endorsing the Golden Rule

(audio/video) Was Jesus Booed In SC? Debate Reaction On The Robert Scott Bell Show 1/17/12 | Ron Paul Booed by ‘Christian’ Conservatives for Endorsing the Golden Rule

Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!

[2011] Ron Paul’s Statement of Faith

‘Just War’ Doctrine Abandoned in America — U.S. Foreign Policy Now Reverse-Christian

Just War and the Iran Crisis

Three Questions for Memorial Day: (1) Can we remember without attributing reasons for war that aren’t in fact the real reasons? (2) Can we remember the innocent victims of war even as we remember those who died while fighting? (3) Can we remember without the “us versus them” factor? — Perhaps if all who died were commemorated…

Chuck Baldwin: Why Do Evangelicals Ignore Ron Paul? | My Opinion

Chuck Baldwin: What Does John Hagee Really Want? — “These WARMONGERING EVANGELICALS beat the war drums; they encourage the young men from their churches to go off and fight these ‘holy’ wars; they WORK TIRELESSLY TO ELECT PRO-WAR POLITICIANS…. Then, the politicians … send the US military to invade, bomb, and KILL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people, the vast majority of whom are innocent people. … ANIMOSITY against the United States is GROWING EXPONENTIALLY; in an effort to keep our country at war, our ECONOMY is being overburdened and overtaxed TO THE POINT OF NO RETURN; in the name of the “War on Terror,” America is on the verge of becoming a giant POLICE STATE; we are INCITING CHINA AND RUSSIA INTO NUCLEAR WAR; and America’s military VETERANS are KILLING THEMSELVES more frequently than are enemy bullets”

Ron Paul: “I’m supporting Chuck Baldwin” & “the most difficult group to recruit has been the evangelicals who supported McCain and his pro-war positions”

The Amazing Ron Paul: Bribe Money — “Wars should not be covert or casual. We absolutely should not be paying off leaders of a country while killing their civilians…. This is not what America is supposed to be about.”

Pat Buchanan: “On foreign policy … Ron Paul and Sarah Palin are on opposite sides completely.” What would Jesus do?

Sarah Palin demonstrates why most evangelicals dissed Ron Paul, who wanted to bring the troops home. ‘Christians’ have two sets of books: one for US and one for THEM (“who don’t deserve rights”). THEY’re not our ‘neighbor’ whom Jesus commanded US to love as much as ourselves. Maybe that’s why most evangelicals refuse to investigate 9/11. If THEY didn’t take down the towers…???

Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians Expected to Be Pro-War All the Time

Ron Paul on what precedes LIBERTY: Life “and I mean all LIFE!”

Ron Paul: “Fascism Comes Wrapped In A Flag, Carrying A Cross”

Ron Paul: Jesus is the Prince of PEACE, Not Preemptive War

Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!

Ron Paul Speaks To The Right To Life Foundation

Ron Paul at the Faith & Freedom Coalition Conference: “Life does begin at conception.” — We would like to think all we have to do is elect the right politicians and everything is going to be okay. But the government is a reflection of the people. The people change before the laws change. Morality has a lot to do with legislation.

Lew Rockwell: The Enemy is in Washington. That’s why RON PAUL runs NOT FOR GLORY, not for POWER, not for CONTROL. He runs to dismantle the aperatus in Washington. He wants to stop the war, stop the Fed’s counterfeiting, stop the rip-offs for the big bank, the big corporation, and for Big Pharma.” | CAN RON PAUL WIN? CAN THE ‘CHRISTIANS’ put their DESIRE FOR BLOOD below their desire to have some kind of standard of living…?

“Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS” Ron Paul: Well meaning church people are keeping the “war on drugs” [the war against the CIA’s competition] going, which helps finance the dark side of our government — our own demise!

Vote For Peace – Ron Paul 2012 — “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called children of God” – Jesus

[Repentance from Power-OVER music video] Golden State: Bombs (End This War/The Ron Paul Song) — “It’s not impossible that we can end this war / Just let your heart explode / It’s not to late for a miracle! — No more lying; No more sighing; I’m still trying, Arms wide open!” | Lets’ be real Christians — “Blessed are the PEACEMAKERS, for they shall be called CHILDREN OF GOD” – Jesus

[Daily Paul comment] The real reason evangelical ‘Christians’ won’t support Ron Paul — “the so called evangelical right wing’s incredible and insatiable lust for war. War is not a family value. War is certainly not a Christian value. … Christ’s views on love and peace and so forth are pretty clearly spelled out. … Many professing Christians will be numbered with the goats on judgement day.”

Sean Stone (Oliver Stone’s son): Should the United States Bomb Iran? Sean Stone returns from Iran — ATTACKING IRAN COULD MAKE THINGS WORSE for ISRAEL!

[Video] 60 Minutes: Meir Dagan, former Israeli CHIEF of MOSSAD tells Lesley Stahl that an AIRSTRIKE anytime soon AGAINST IRAN is premature and COULD LEAD TO *DISASTER*!

Greg Boyd: In the kingdom of God, we are not allowed to have any enemies. All body-bags are equally tragic.

Sarah Palin: U.S. Troops in Iraq Doing God’s Will — “A Task that is From God”

Can Sarah Palin be a real, going-to-heaven Christian?

What is Anchorage’s new statue sitting there thinking? “Why does Alaska still support Sarah Palin, the OPPOSITE OF RON PAUL on foreign interventionism?” — & — “Why did ‘Christians’ in this town vote for George W. Bush, the OPPOSITE OF JESUS on foreign interventionism, TWICE?”

John Hagee calls for a preemptive strike on Iran

Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘A God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace’

My observation: Satan is using US to take out regimes that oppose his one-world government/anti-Christ reign. Be on God’s side. Don’t follow the crowd; follow Jesus. “Come out from them and be separate,” says God. Be holy. Let’s love!

Alex Jones: Qaddafi is another tyrant the globalists can’t control, so they’re going after him. The globalists are running the whole world and mopping up the final few countries they don’t control. They’re knocking over the old puppets, putting new ones in.

EXCELLENT! Cynthia McKinney: Obama’s So Called Humanitarian Aid to Libya is A Disaster: “The American people are being lied to.” Kadafi was standing in the way of a globalist, Mediterranean states alliance with Europe.

Col. Bob Bowman: The immorality they’re foisting on this country — We haven’t been the good guys for a long time. The countries we’ve invaded happen to be the few countries in the world that are not part of the Rothschilds’ banking cartel.

Pastor Chuck Baldwin: Will Evangelicals Ever Admit They Were Duped by Bush?

Reverse-Christian George W. Bush: ‘D___ right’ I personally ordered waterboarding — When will evangelicals admit they were wrong, voting for this known Skull and Bonesman for even his 2nd term?

[Reverse-Christianity] Torture and the American Conscience: Most white ‘Christian’ evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture

President Bush — “Bad Fruits versus Good Fruits” List

Paul’s Elders’ qualifications revisited: What does ‘BLAMELESS’ mean? — Most pastors are biblically disqualified

The Boot-Camp Factor: The Hate & Anger Factory Where Men are Programmed to Kill and Then Become Our Dads?!! Our Pastors?!!!

Ron Blessed-are-the-PEACEmakers Paul: U.S. War On Libya Totally UnConstitutional | Jesus: Peacemakers = “Children of God”

Michael Franti: Bomb the World (”Power to the Peaceful!”)

Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way | Who are the Children of God?

Ron Paul – The Just-War Theory & Peace President

 

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Related: Ron Paul on Evangelical Christians Expected to Be Pro-War All the Time

Fenske on Chuck Norris’ “Would Jesus Support War?” – ‘A God of War’ & ‘*a* Prince of Peace’

Quotations from: Chuck Norris’ WND piece: Would Jesus support war?

When Joseph Farah started WorldNetDaily, I was a big fan – proudly displaying my WorldNetDaily: A Free Press for a Free People bumper sticker on my car. I thought Farah was really pro-freedom.

But then came 9/11, and Afghanistan (yuck!), and Iraq (quadruple yuck!). Farah supported all of the knee-jerk reactions, and wouldn’t print anything contrary to the corporatocracy, pro-war line. And now it seems there is no end in sight.

Chuck Norris continues Farah’s philosophy in this pro-Huckabee, Jesus-is-pro-our-wars article. Norris writes:

That’s another reason I’ve endorsed Mike Huckabee. He’s also the only presidential candidate who publicly values the Second Amendment as much as the First. He reminds Americans that our Second Amendment gun-bearing rights were given not merely as a license to hunt, but a protection against tyranny.

At least Farah, as editor in chief, must know better: the only presidential candidate line patently ignores the champion of the Constitution, 10-term congressman, Ron Paul. WND completely ignores Congressman Ron Paul and his total support of the United States Constitution (no other candidate comes close). And Paul is especially strong on the right to bear arms to protect ourselves even against our own government if it becomes tyrannical.

To justify Huckabee’s pro-preemptive war stance, the famous kick-fighter mentions a specific situation in which God told the Children of Israel to kill every man. Norris is correctly stating that Jesus already has supported war. But then Norris wants us to make the leap that because Jesus supported that war he now supports Bush’s (and Huckabee’s continuation of) The Project for a New American Century’s (PNAC) globalist wars??

God gets a bad rap for that particular kill-them-all mandate, but there is a very important, but little-known, bizarre reason why God righteously commanded the Children of Israel to preemptively kill the giants (the Genesis 6 and-after-that, Nephilim hybrids) in the promised land. Satan’s plan was to occupy Canaan with “his own seed” in advance of Abraham’s seed so they would interbreed and contaminate the human race. See:

My theory on the Nephilim: When God told the Children of Israel to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan (the giants), there was this Genesis-6, demon-contaminated genetic problem again? Israel did not; and then there was intermarriage. This would explain why so many seem to be predisposed towards evil — and they become our leaders — even of churches?!!

Our totally holy Creator is very serious about the taking of human life. He was then and is now.

George W. Bush and our future President don’t have this same mandate, no matter what W thinks God told him about Iraq. And we must consider that anyone who supports this “kill them over there” philosophy is a murderer in heart. This mentality is polluting “the church,” sickening our nation, and turning the world against us and even Jesus!

Instead of electing another like the President we have, we should be contritely reconsidering our position and support a more Christlike, a more Prince-of-Peacelike international policy. “They’ll know us by our love.”

Norris continues:

(Of course every dagger draper must also wrestle with his caution, “for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword”!)

Will this scripture come true for America? Will America perish by the sword as China and/or Russia take us out? For based upon their own statements, Huckabee would not exercise sufficient caution when it comes to war. Only Ron Paul would. Only Ron Paul would restore our credibility. If we sow peace, we’ll reap peace. If we sow war, we’ll reap war. And we’re no longer the only big boy on the block, China for example.

WND asks:

WWJW [What would Jesus war]?

No question that Jesus Christ has called us to love our neighbors as ourselves, turn our other cheek in sacrifice for another, and pray for our enemies. And so we should. However, he also realizes criminals and terrorists will confront us and calls us to defend and protect our families and borders too.

I agree, but have we really prayed for whom the neocons say are our enemies? Do we really love Iraqi men, women, children and old folks as much as we love American men, women, children and old people? As many as hundreds of thousands of the innocent have died, and their nation is in shambles. Even most of the Christians have fled. And we’re responsible. And incredibly, many “Christians” are willing to do the same thing all over again in Iran. “Pastors” are even drum-beating for this next, preemptive war.

How would we like it if Iraq had been the stronger power and invaded us for the attrocities we really have committed around the world for decades, which included our supplying biological weapons to Sadam Hussein. Bush then played the “weapons of mass destruction” card to justify taking him out, but the real reason was because Sadam was no longer under our thumb and was getting in the way of his daddy’s New World Order’s agenda – which the Bible predicted but in no way supports.

And now Jesus’ name is besmirched because the “Christians” have been Bush’s (and now Huckabee’s) loudest supporters.

“‘Come out from among them,
And be separate
,’ says the Lord,
Touch no unclean thing.
I will receive you. (2Cor. 6:17)

Ron Paul, a sincere Christian who most evangelical leaders won’t support, believes in hands off until necessary: a strong military defense, but only to be used as a last resort and only when our families and borders are truly in peril. This is Jesus’ way. We need to separate ourselves and come out of the Antichrist, beast system.

Norris incorrectly concludes:

The baby born in a manger 2,000 years ago was not only a Savior, but a God of war. But, even more, he is a Prince of Peace who spiritually waged war on our behalves to bring us peace with God and a promise to live forever in heaven.

Jesus isn’t just a Prince of Peace, He is THE Prince of Peace who resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.

James 4:1 (WEB) Where do wars and fightings among you come from? Don’t they come from your pleasures that war in your members? 2 You lust, and don’t have. You kill, covet, and can’t obtain. You fight and make war. You don’t have, because you don’t ask. 3 You ask, and don’t receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it for your pleasures. 4 You adulterers and adulteresses [America?], don’t you know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God. 5 Or do you think that the Scripture says in vain, “The Spirit who lives in us yearns jealously”? 6 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” 7 Be subject therefore to God. But resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8 Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9 Lament, mourn, and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to gloom. 10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he will exalt you.

May the pro-preemptive-war ‘church’ humble themselves and repent to the world for what they’ve done, or we will all pay the consequences. Ron Paul is our chance, our God-given chance to repent. Too many Bush and Huckabee supporting, evangelical ‘churches’ are merely “partysville” – all smiles but no real joy and peace within. The remedy is above in verse 9 & 10, and politically, I believe, in Ron Paul’s “humble” foreign policy.

Chuck Norris ends with this certainly well meaning but very problematic prayer:

Jesus, I accept that you were born with a mission to die. I believe you spiritually waged war on the cross by taking the punishment for me there to pay for my sins. I open the door of my heart right now and invite you in as my Lord and Savior. Take control of my life. Teach me to be your follower. Thank you for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. In Your name I pray. Amen.

This is problematic, because praying “Jesus…take control of my life” while publicly supporting unnecessary mass killing is like the popular, female, ‘Christian’ singer who sings “Jesus Take the Wheel” before millions while clearly disregarding the Apostle Paul’s mandate that Christian women dress modestly.

We can thank God for forgiving our sins and giving us eternal life, believing the promise to live forever in heaven, like Norris states. But will this promise apply to us if we aren’t truly peacemakers?

According to the Prince of Peace, we can only be children of God if we really are peacemakers:

Blessed are the peacemakers,
For they shall be called children of God. (Mt. 5:9)

Jesus doesn’t mess around. He doesn’t just say things and not mean them. Every word of the Bible can be trusted, and we’ll be judge by it.

If we hate we’re in trouble. He wants us pure, like Him. Our goal is too small. And love, peace and joy is just around the corner – that blissful corner that we take to live in Him!

The Bible also says this about who the children of God are:

For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God. (Rom. 8:14)

We just can’t do our own thing and think we’re in because positive-encouragement-only “Christian” music and “Christian” preachers say so, telling us what we want to hear. But what does the Bible say? We must be led by the Spirit, Who is the Prince of Peace, not preemptive war.

We should really, seriously pray: Lord Jesus, the Prince of Peace, take the wheel. Really.

Quoting Chuck’s prayer, but said differently: Jesus, take control of my life. Teach me to be your follower. Teach us whom you want us to vote for, and teach us how to love the Iraqis, Iranians and even our worst enemy as much as we love ourselves?

Ron Paul is a true peacemaker and child of God. Now is our chance!

Ron Paul 2008!

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee——————dom!!!!!!!!!!!

Power to the people!!!!!!!!!!!!

May we forever be ‘ONE’ in Christ Jesus, THE PRINCE of PEACE – right with Him and right with the nations – having clean hands and a pure heart – peacemakers.

Jeff Fenske : )

Related:

Chuck Norris: Would Jesus support war?

My theory on the Nephilim: When God told the Children of Israel to kill every man, woman and child in Canaan (the giants), there was this Genesis-6, demon-contaminated genetic problem again? Israel did not; and then there was intermarriage. This would explain why so many seem to be predisposed towards evil — and they become our leaders — even of churches?!!

Ron Paul’s Christlike Attitude: Love, Peace & Hope – No *Initiation* of Aggression!

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