http://www.cbnlatinoamerica.org/answers.pdf
Pat Robertson ANSWERS TO 200 OF LIFE’S MOST PROBING QUESTIONS
THOMAS NELSON PUBLISHERS NASHVILLE
In determining a giving pattern, the Christian should consider 10 percent as an irreducible minimum. We belong to the Lord and so do all our possessions. Therefore:, what we give should be determined by God’s leading in our lives [Exactly. “God’s leading, period.” Not a percentage from the Old Covenant as being a starting point, designed to finance the Levites. Pastors aren’t of the Levitical priesthood, and we are now capable of being Spirit-led – jeff] may give 25 percent, others 50 percent. Some might use 10 percent to live on and give away 90 percent.
We give as God has blessed us. I believe there is also merit in the concept of anticipatory tithing. Consider the income that you anticipate receiving, and tithe as if you already had it.
Tithing was in the old covenant, Old Testament law so the Levitical priesthood would have income no matter what. Now that Jesus died on the cross and the Holy Spirit has been given, the law is now written in Christians’ hearts. So the Holy Spirit now helps us determine how much and where to give. This is the new and better way spoken of in Hebrews 7 and:
2 Cor. 9:7: Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart….
In Acts 15, the elders decided to keep only a few practices from the old covenant, none of which was tithing.
Teaching viewers to give 10% of their income helps keep The 700 Club on the air whether it’s God’s will or not. Many ‘churches’ do the same, teaching ‘benchmark’ tithing (10% should be the minimum).
But Pat goes one step further:
“I believe there is also merit in the concept of anticipatory tithing. Consider the income that you anticipate receiving, and tithe as if you already had it.”
Paul warned us about the love of $$money$$:
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some have been led astray from the faith in their greed, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.” 1Tim. 6:10 (WEB)
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Peter Tracy
I find it fascinating how Christians will look for any reason NOT to give
or reasons to give “their way.” I’m just glad that our Heavenly Father
did not try and “reason” why He shouldn’t give us the Greatest gift of all
and for all time. Had He held back giving His Son none of us would be
here now to even have this debate. Because of Jesus sacrifice alone for
all mankind those of us who know Him and belong to Him should be honored
to not only give 10% but all we have and can give. I do not give to t.v.
ministries for the most part. But I do give at leaset that 10% to my Church. I have a wonderful Pastor who teaches and preaches Gods Word
uncompromised. A humble and loving servant of God. I’m honored to give.
Not bound. Ten percent is the least we can and should give. I’m sick of
so may Christians trying to find excuses to hold back from giving. First
and foremost we should give out of Love for Our Lord. Not out of duty.
He gave us EVERYTHING on that cross. And we can never ever pay Him back.
Give out of Love For Him. Nothing else!!
Peter Tracy
East Hardwick,Vt.
Jeff Fenske
Dear Peter,
You say: “I find it fascinating how Christians will look for any reason NOT to give
or reasons to give ‘their way.'”
This is precisely my point that I explain in my “Tithing or Spirit-led” posts that are mainly on my OneCanHappen site: http://onecanhappen.com/category/tithing-or-spirit-led.
The point is that we are responsible to be led by the Holy Spirit regarding the use of ALL of our money: to give GOD’S WAY!
What is God’s way in post-pentecost today?
The law was “weak and useless…. Now we have a better way,” the writer of Hebrews states.
Who is the biggest loser of the continuation of teaching this aspect of the law?
Us or the Holy Spirit, God, Himself?
Bringing the teaching of old covenant tithing into the new covenant, post-pentecost (now that we have the Holy Spirit) era is one of the main problems in the church, today. We’re not under law, but….
“Grace” is how we’re taught to complete this phrase. But what does the Word of God really teach? We’re to be led by the Holy Spirit to be Christians.
“There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who don’t walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death. For what the law couldn’t do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God did, sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh; that the ordinance of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. … For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are children of God.” (Romans 8:1-4,14)
Please, at least, read my article, The Day that Tithing Ended—To Now Be Led By the Holy Spirit http://onecanhappen.com/2007/11/26/the-day-that-tithing-ended-to-now-be-led-by-the-holy-spirit, to see what the Bible really says about this subject.
We are sons and daughters of God. Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to lead us into all truth. Right? — Jesus’ words in John 14-16?
The freedom to live in Christ is not a license to sin, to do whatever we want. It’s the mandate to be now led by God, Himself, to actually “live in Christ” in this crucial area of $$$.
“Tell me, YOU THAT DESIRE TO BE UNDER THE LAW…. But IF YOU ARE LED BY THE SPIRIT, you are not under the law.” (Gal. 4:21a, 5:18)
Jeff Fenske : )
Bible Study
I know one thing for sure, God does NOT want my money or anyone elses for that matter. He owns the cattle on a thousand hills.
Anonymous
I decided to test God as the bible says you can with tithing and tried out the anticipatory tithing I saw on the 700 club. My income was 39,000 in that year and I tithed 20% believing God to give me an income of $78,000. As of June 30th of this year, the half way point, I have already earned more than $39,000! I give because I enjoy it and because is not a man that he should lie. God can’t lie. He says that if you tithe he will open open the windows heaven, and he says.
Anonymous
I meant to mention that I will have the same work for the second half of the year; plus one more contract, which means that I will earn more than 80,000 this year. Whether I or any one else likes it, this is one case where anticipatory tithing has worked. That being said, the money isn’t growing on trees. I’m standing on the scriptures “God will bless the work of your hands” and “God gives me power to get wealth”.
Jeff Fenske
Testimony such as this proves nothing. There are actually probably a much higher percentage of those to whom tithing didn’t ‘work’ — because: Russell Earl Kelly, Ph.D.: Tithing is Not a Christian Doctrine
Russell Kelly proves that tithing wasn’t really even ‘tithing,’ the way it’s presented today, and it certainly isn’t a New Testament doctrine, now that we are to be led by the Holy Spirit, determining in our hearts what and who to give to.
Tithing is part of the law that many pastors conveniently cling onto, because then the money comes in no matter what they do. They’re taking something that was designed to keep the Levitical priesthood functioning and applying it themselves — with dire consequence: It’s a key part of what is keeping real Christianity from happening in America.
Most pastors aren’t obeying God and should get no money at all.
I have a Tithing or Spirit-led category at ONEcanhappen, if you’re interested. The earlier posts deal with this topic directly.
jeff fenske