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Ray McGovern: “There are basically two CIAs” — The President now has his own personal Gestapo

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On July 21, 2010

In CIA Drug Running/Assassinations, George Bush Family, Torture, Why they hate US

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

“There are basically two CIAs.”

“Now we have two separate and distinct entities: one trying to do objective analysis (against great odds, by the way) and the other doing these operations.”

Contractors do the dirty work.

“The Congress used to do oversight. Now they’re really the overlook committees. They haven’t done any oversight.”

“Judge shopping….” “If they find the right kind of judge to make this kind of ruling, they’re able to get off scot free.”

“The Executive can pretend that this will do undo harm to national security….”

“That gives the President his own, personal Gestapo.”

– Ray McGovern

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIXmRPKpI8]CIA out-of-control?

RTAmerica | July 19, 2010

Last week, a Federal Judge ruled that the government can suppress information about basically whatever they would like, even if it is illegal. The decision was made as a response to the Freedom of Information Act, which was filed by the ACLU. Ray McGovern says the CIA has broken into two organizations that differ in their ideology about information.

Judge Napolitano: Bush should have been indicted for “torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrant”

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On July 13, 2010

In George Bush Family, Torture

From: rawstory

Fox legal analyst: Bush should have been indicted

Fox News’ senior judicial analyst made some surprising remarks Saturday that may go against the grain at his conservative network.

In a interview with Ralph Nader on C-SPAN’s Book TV to promote his book Lies the Government Told You, Judge Andrew Napolitano said that President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney should have been indicted for “torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrant.”

Entire Article Here

America’s School of Death, Fort Benning, Georgia: torture and execution training center

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On June 27, 2010

In Real History, Torture, Why they hate US

From: APFN

AMERICA’S SCHOOL
OF DEATH

In a picturesque Spanish-style structure resembling a mission or cathedral and located in historic Fort Benning, Georgia, is housed what is called “The School of the Americas” (SOA). Its benign sounding name, however, belies the malignancy of its curriculum. …

The School of the Americas was founded for the purpose of training foreign counterintelligence forces to operate in Latin America. In the training of these forces the “U.S. Army…used training materials that condoned ‘executions of guerillas, extortion, physical abuse [a sanitized term for torture], coercion, and false imprisonment”, according to the U.S. Intelligence Oversight Board (IOB) in a report issued June 28, 1996. The IOB is a four-person committee created three years ago by order of President Clinton for the purpose of independent investigations of alleged abuses by the United States intelligence community.

Representative Joseph P. Kennedy (D. Mass.) has called for legislation to dismantle the SOA. “Our country,” Kennedy says, “has taught those soldiers how to create suffering amongst the poorest people of Latin America….[The SOA training] manuals taught tactics that come right out of a Soviet gulag and have no place in civilized society.”

Kennedy’s opening statement in the Executive Summary of his office’s review of SOA states:

Entire Article Here

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Colonel Prouty: CIA Torture Techniques used in Honduras

Col. Fletcher Prouty: US surveillance is so precise and comprehensive that we could have stopped the DRUG TRADE instantly anytime

Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, the real Mr. X in Oliver Stone’s JFK: COVER STORIES are WRITTEN BEFORE the crises even happen. War HISTORY BOOKS aren’t accurate.

Colonel Prouty: CIA Torture Techniques used in Honduras

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On June 27, 2010

In Real History, Torture, Why they hate US

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOzARGWNytU]Torture Techniques used in Honduras

Colonel Prouty discusses CIA Torture Techniques used in Honduras

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America’s School of Death, Fort Benning, Georgia: torture and execution training center

Col. Fletcher Prouty: US surveillance is so precise and comprehensive that we could have stopped the DRUG TRADE instantly anytime

Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, the real Mr. X in Oliver Stone’s JFK: COVER STORIES are WRITTEN BEFORE the crises even happen. War HISTORY BOOKS aren’t accurate.

Daniel Ellsberg: The importance and ethics of whistleblowing when a country has gone rogue — even torturing and assassinating our own!

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On June 20, 2010

In Barack Obama, Energy, Torture, War

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ2-PRlbvdo]Daniel Ellsberg fears a US hit on Wikileaks founder Julian Assange

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Democracy Now also has this excellent interview with Daniel Ellsberg
(Ellsberg starts at minute-26):

With Rumored Manhunt for Wikileaks Founder
and Arrest of Alleged Leaker of Video Showing Iraq Killings,
Obama Admin Escalates Crackdown on Whistleblowers
of Classified Information

US Media’s “Israel Can Do No Wrong” Bias

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On June 5, 2010

In Israel, Media Bias Exposed, Torture

From: Rense

US Media’s Pro-Israeli Bias
Response to the Freedom Flotilla Slaughter

By Stephen Lendman
6-3-10

In promoting his 2008 book, “Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid,” Jimmy Carter said one reason for writing it was “to provoke (unbiased) discussion, which is very rarely heard in this country” on the question of Israel. In America, “any sort of debate back and forth, any sort of incisive editorial comment in the major newspapers, is almost completely absent….There are no significant countervailing voices” to deter Israel from getting away with murder, an illegal blockade, aggressive wars, and the most extreme crimes against humanity; its latest, of course, the massacre of peace activists taking aid to besieged Gazans.

Besides coming from officials and their spokespersons, Israel’s propaganda arm, Israel Politik, said “Israel had no choice but to stop the flotilla from breaking the blockade….While Israel was forced to take action in international waters, its actions are supported by international maritime law.”

False. Under international law, interdictions in international waters constitute piracy in the broadest sense of the term, and blockades are acts of war….

Sadly, this is what passes for journalism in America, especially on television and talk radio – disinformation, distortion and suppression of the truth that can’t pass the smell test – why Project Censored alerts about a “truth emergency,” glaringly in reporting about Israel.

What Passes for TV News in America – All Propaganda All the Time

Especially in reports about Israel, a nation that can do no wrong on cable or broadcast news and talk shows, leaving viewers hopelessly misinformed.

Never are guests like Noam Chomsky invited on or are comments like his aired in response to the Flotilla massacre, saying:

“It is worth bearing in mind that the crime is nothing new. For decades, Israel has been hijacking boats in international waters between Cyprus and Lebanon, killing or kidnapping passengers, sometimes bringing them to prisons in Israel including secret prison/torture chambers, sometimes holding them as hostages for many years.”

Israel has been out-of-control for decades, now more than ever….

Entire Article Here

Steve Quayle: Postal Service Building Torture Rooms — “Every single thing is converging…” “Shame on America…for not speaking out against torture.” “What we are is a nation under seige. And we are a nation soon to be embroiled in the worst case scenario and nightmare ever imagined on our shores.”

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On May 26, 2010

In America's Getting Jacked!, Police State, Torture

Quotes in title transcribed by Jeff Fenske

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxkLBIQmEwA]Steve Quayle & Alex Report of ‘Postal Service’ Building Torture Rooms on Alex Jones Tv 1/4

Alex & Steve report on how America is heading for lockdown!
http://stevequayle.com

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For those who want to put the full blame on Obama, unwilling to admit how President George W. Bush trashed the Constitution over and over again — how he surrounded himself with cronies…

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On May 22, 2010

In America's Getting Jacked!, False Christians Trashing America, George Bush Family, Torture

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

“What emerged through the two terms [of the Bush administration – editor] was that people who seemed to be accused of violating the law had a rapid ascent in this administration. And one has to wonder whether this is suddenly a criteria, that the President likes people who are willing to go the edge of the law and beyond it to achieve what he believes is a worthy purpose.”

“Frankly, I’m not too sure what he thought he was swearing to when he took the oath of office to uphold the Constitution and our laws.”

– Jonathan Turley

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmc60JmaLbE]“The Constitution is just a piece of paper” – G.W. Bush

Countdown with Keith Olbermann. Olbermann interviews Jonathan Turley a constitutional law expert who rips Bush a new [___], pointing out how many of his cronies are former criminals who have no respect for the law or the Constitution of the United States.

10/17/06: Bush Dissolves The U.S. Constitution Today

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On May 22, 2010

In America's Getting Jacked!, False Christians Trashing America, George Bush Family, Torture

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibpdwFjPMWE]Countdown: Bush Dissolves The U.S. Constitution Today

Today 10-17-06, President (King) Bush signed a bill that officially dissolved the United States Constitution. This law takes away The Writ of Habeas Corpus that allows for the right to have an attorney and the knowledge of crimes a person being charged with. Also unlawful detention. They hide this within the Detainee Combatant Bill. It allows the President to declare ANYONE, ANYWHERE AN ENEMY COMBATANT, THIS INCLUDES U.S. CITIZENS, FOR ANY REASON ANYTIME. People. WAKE UP!!!! We have LOST OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!!! TODAY 10-17-06, The Day The U.S. Bill Of Rights Died. RIP.

Brice Taylor: A Mind-Control Victim Speaks Out

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On April 19, 2010

In 'THEY' couldn't be that EVIL??, America's Getting Jacked!, Globalism—One-World Gov't, Mind Control, The Rockefellers, Torture

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4MDCLH683o]Brice Taylor on Mind Control

This is part of a speech given by Brice Taylor regarding her victimization by the U.S. government in the CIA program known as MK ULTR

Related:

Mind-Control on ‘Coast’ Tonight, 11/9/08 | My Theory | Recap — Where I met Brice Taylor

All of my Mind-Control posts at ToBeFree

Cathy O’Brien: A freed Presidential mind-control slave gives specifics on how America is getting jacked!

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On April 19, 2010

In 'THEY' couldn't be that EVIL??, America's Getting Jacked!, BIG Pharma, CIA Drug Running/Assassinations, George Bush Family, Globalism—One-World Gov't, Media Bias Exposed, Mind Control, Mitt Romney, Psychology, Real History, Secret Societies, Sexual Assault, Torture, Why we're getting jacked

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske

“I name these names so that you can understand who these people are because they’re the same ones over and over and over, again.”

“I’ve known Dick Cheney through Gerald Ford since 1975. He is the most brutal person I’ve ever encountered, personally, by far. But it’s his attitude and his agenda that is so frightening.”

“We need to learn to expand our thinking and realize what is going on. Because when you go outside this country, it’s accepted knowledge that our President [George W. Bush] is under mind-control. It’s accepted knowledge that Dick Cheney is very much in control — and that George Bush, Sr., his closest friend and comrade, has been for a long time.”

“It’s essential that we all gain our strength of spirit in order to be able to grasp the truth. … With that strength of spirit becomes an ability to have inner peace….”

“It is truth that makes us free.”

“Love is the most powerful force in the universe, and it empowers people to have the strength of spirit to stand and make a positive difference for all of us….”

– Cathy O’Brien

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al5Ql0mKJ_E]Cathy O’Brien: America en trance 1/7

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CIA chief approved destruction of terrorist waterboarding tapes

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On April 19, 2010

In Torture

From: The Times

The former CIA chief, Porter Goss, approved a 2005 decision to destroy 92 tapes showing US agents waterboarding two terrorism suspects, according to newly released internal emails.

FBI investigators are still examining who knew what about the destruction of the videos, which showed officers using the simulated drowning technique that is widely considered to be torture, on Abu Zubaydah and another terrorism suspect.

The emails were released by the Justice Department under a Freedom of Information Act request by the American Civil Liberties Union.

“These documents provide further evidence that senior CIA officials were willing to risk being prosecuted for obstruction of justice in order to avoid being prosecuted for torture,” said Ben Wizner, a lawyer with the ACLU. “If the Department of Justice fails to hold these officials accountable, they will have succeeded in their cover-up.”

Entire Article Here

Bush’s top political adviser, Karl Rove, PROUD of using waterboarding!

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On March 14, 2010

In 'THEY' couldn't be that EVIL??, George Bush Family, Lying, The Soul of America, Torture

From: Daily Mail

George W Bush’s top political adviser has said he was ‘proud’ of controversial techniques such as waterboarding, which he claimed broke the will of terrorist.

Karl Rove – known as the former president’s ‘brain’  – said he did not believe that the interrogation method amounted to torture.
In an interview with the BBC, he claimed that waterboarding – which simulates drowning – had helped prevent terrorist attacks.

‘I’m proud that we used techniques that broke the will of these terrorists and gave us valuable information that allowed us to foil plots,’ he said.

‘I am proud that we kept the world safer than it was by the use of these techniques. They are appropriate, they are in conformity with our international requirements and with US law.’

Asked if he believed waterboarding was torture, he said: ‘No, it’s not. People need to read the memos …

Entire Article Here

Related:

CIA Ludicrously Claims Torture Prevented Debunked L.A. Terror Plot — KSM waterboarded six times a day for a month!

U.S. intelligence officers waterboarded the claimed 9/11 mastermind 160 times, says ex-MI5 boss | ‘One of the sad things is Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush all watched [Rupert Murdoch’s (Fox)] “24.”

U.S. intelligence officers waterboarded the claimed 9/11 mastermind 160 times, says ex-MI5 boss | ‘One of the sad things is Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush all watched [Rupert Murdoch’s (Fox)] “24.”

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On March 11, 2010

In 'THEY' couldn't be that EVIL??, 9-11 TRUTH, George Bush Family, Torture

‘One of the sad things is Cheney, Rumsfeld and Bush all watched “24”,’ Lady Manningham-Buller said, referring to the popular TV show about a counter-terrorist agent, starring Kiefer Sutherland.

From: dailymail

U.S intelligence agencies deliberately concealed their mistreatment of terror suspects, a former head of MI5 claimed last night.
Baroness Eliza Manningham-Buller also said she had only learnt that 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed had been waterboarded – a total of 160 times – after retiring from the Security Service in 2007.

In a speech to the Mile End Group at the House of Lords, Lady Manningham-Buller also revealed that Britain protested against the treatment of terror suspects.

‘The Americans were very keen that people like us did not discover what they were doing,’ said the former head of the domestic spy agency.

Entire Article Here

Lose your empathy and you’ve lost your soul: “Republicans still support Bush’s torture and murder of about two million innocents, and Democrats overlook Obama’s expanded war and torture.” “Once a combat soldier kills a defenseless non-combatant…”

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On March 7, 2010

In Ethics, Israel, The Soul of America, Torture, War, Why we're getting jacked

From: Rense

If You Want To Lose Your Soul
Blindly Support Your Government
– Right Or Wrong
By J. Speer-Williams
3-6-10

A soul-less being has no empathy for others. Lose your empathy, and you’ve lost your soul.

There is a “great divide” forming amongst mankind, and it’s often war that most often triggers that divide.

Once a combat soldier kills a defenseless non-combatant, he either likes it or feels remorse. If he likes it, he kills more non-combatants, many more. If he feels remorse, he’s likely to kill more non-combatants to anesthetized or deaden his feelings of moral anguish for having initially killed an innocent human being. In either case, such wanton killing is encouraged by “command intention,” from above, for a variety of reasons; but mainly, it’s done to spread the contagion of universal madness: a people without empathy.

In such a mad society, Israeli citizens justify burning alive Palestinian children, while American republicans still support Bush’s torture and murder of about two million innocents, and democrats overlook Obama’s expanded war and torture in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Pakistan.

Soon our madness – absence of empathy – spreads throughout the Middle East, and then around the world in the form of justifying or overlooking all governmental crimes as we are now emotionally invested in them, with our lack of empathy.

A lack of empathy blinds human beings to justice, liberty, and personal discernment, rendering them soulless – a major reason for all wars.

J. Speer-Williams
jsw4@mac.com

Related:

The Boot-Camp Factor: The Hate & Anger Factory Where Men are Programmed to Kill and Then Become Our Dads?!! Our Pastors?!!!

Boot camp kills the conscience so soldiers can do evil without being convicted in their hearts

Ron Paul Floor Statement on Assassinations 2/24/10: “What have we allowed ourselves to become?”

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On February 26, 2010

In Ethics, Ron Paul, The Soul of America, Torture

Congressman Paul speaks on the floor about
assassinations of Americans by their own government

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Ron Paul: “We are on the brink of a financial cataclysmic event!” “The next step is a currency crisis, because there will be a rejection of the dollar.”

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On February 21, 2010

In $Money$ ToBeFree, America's Getting Jacked!, Ethics, Inflation$$$$$$, Media Bias Exposed, Ron Paul, The End of America?, The Greatest Depression?, Timing Predictions, Torture, War

Awesome!

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bJALN7qEYU]Ron Paul At CPAC [Conservative Political Action Conference]

February 19, 2010 C-SPAN

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[video] Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, Episode 6 – ‘Manchurian Candidate’: Sanctioned murder by the U.S. government through trauma-based mind-control victims!

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On January 10, 2010

In 'THEY' couldn't be that EVIL??, Mind Control, Torture, War

The show that cable TV subscribers in Alaska were not allowed to see!

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVGt-JC8a-A]Manchurian Candidate – Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura

This episode attempts to uncover a government mind control program, which can ultimately turn any individual into a lethal and controllable assassin.

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Duncan O’Finioan, The “Ultimate Warrior”: A Real Life Jason Bourne, CIA Programmed Mind-Control Assassin

People Cursing Animals (and People?): “Men Who Stare At Goats” — The True Story Behind The Film

Mind-Control on ‘Coast’ Tonight, 11/9/08 | My Theory | Recap

Amazing coincidence or conspiracy? Alaska’s TV cable monopoly GCI drops TruTV before the landmark 7-part “Conspiracy Theory” series completely airs!

“Conspiracy Theory” with Jesse Ventura — All 7 Episodes

Alex Jones: What Happened to Us?

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On January 10, 2010

In Media Bias Exposed, The Soul of America, Torture

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nANBquzGMFU]Alex Jones Tv: What Happened to Us?

Secret but not forgotten: Israel’s facility 139 — Where Palestinian, Lebanese, and other Arab prisoners are detained and subjected to torture

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On December 14, 2009

In Israel, Reverse-Logos, Torture, War

From: Uruknet.info

December 11, 2009

In May of this year, the United Nations Committee Against Torture bought up the issue of Facility 1391, a clandestine Israeli prison where Palestinian, Lebanese, and other Arab prisoners are detained and subjected to torture. The committee called upon Israel to grant the International Committee of the Red Cross access to this prison and demanded to know if there were other secret prisons in Israel.

Entire Article Here

Music also used as torture at Guantanamo — 72 hours in a row at volumes just below that to shatter the eardrums — Bands outraged!

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On October 22, 2009

In Ethics, George Bush Family, The Soul of America, Torture, War, Why we're getting jacked

From: Raw Story

Bands ‘rage against the machine’ for torture info

At least two rock stars whose songs have been reportedly used to torture Guantanamo Bay detainees are demanding the federal government release details of the use of music by the U.S. government during interrogations of prisoners.

The National Campaign to Close Guantanamo is working with musicians in their latest effort to drum up public support for Congress to close U.S. detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay. Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails and Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine are both putting their names to Freedom of Information Act requests to be submitted Thursday that demand the government come clean about how music was used to potentially torture suspected terrorists. The music of both Reznor’s and Morello’s bands have been linked to alleged detainee torture in the past, and both musicians are now hoping their effort to declassify the information will push Congress to close U.S. detention facilities at Guantanamo Bay.

“Guantanamo is known around the world as one of the places where human beings have been tortured — from water boarding, to stripping, hooding and forcing detainees into humiliating sexual acts — playing music for 72 hours in a row at volumes just below that to shatter the eardrums,” said Morello. “Guantanamo may be Dick Cheney’s idea of America, but it’s not mine. The fact that music I helped create was used in crimes against humanity sickens me….

Entire Article Here

Details of secret CIA torture prisons released

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On August 14, 2009

In The Soul of America, Torture, War

From: Telegraph

Kyle “Dusty” Foggo, a senior CIA officer who is currently in jail for corruption has told The New York Times how he oversaw the construction of three identical prisons from his base in Frankfurt where he ran the spy agency’s main European supply base. …

The prisons were designed to facilitate harsh interrogation and torture and sometimes held as few as four detainees. …

There were non slip floors and wooden walls which detainees were slammed against. They also used the waterboarding torture technique.

Entire Article Here

Col. Bob Bowman on National SECURITY: We trusted in the wrong thing. “By accepting the evil we are destroying this country and its security”

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On July 12, 2009

In Barack Obama, False Christians Trashing America, FreedomQuotes, The End of America?, The Soul of America, Torture

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from The Alex Jones Show, 7/8/09

“For the last 30 years, I’ve been quoting scripture. Psalm 33:

‘A king is not saved by his mighty army. A warrior is not saved by his great strength. The warhorse is a vain hope for victory, and in its might it cannot save.’

Psalm 37 gives the prescription for national security. It says:

‘Trust in the Lord and do good that you may dwell in the land and have security.’

By accepting the evil we are destroying this country and its security.”

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3kei8K5_dY]

Alex welcomes in-studio Robert M. Bowman, former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development for the U.S. Air Force in the Ford and Carter administrations, a former United States Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions, and Presidential candidate for the Reform Party in 2000.

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Reverse Christianity: Chuck Colson Supports Torture!

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On July 9, 2009

In Ethics, False Christians Trashing America, Torture

From: CNN, Torture prompts soul-searching among some Christians

A survey conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life found that white evangelical Christians are more likely to support torture than people who rarely or never attend religious services.

The survey said that 62 percent of white evangelical Protestants say that the use of torture against suspected terrorists can be often or sometimes justified in order to gain important information. …

Chuck Colson, the evangelical pastor who once served as an aide to President Nixon, answered the same question in an online discussion conducted by the Washington Post “On Faith” Web site.

Colson said that Christians are supposed to obey the law, but there may be times when there is a higher obligation [WWJD? Who Would Jesus Torture? Shouldn’t this rather be refusing to torture if the government commands it – editor], such as ignoring a “no trespassing” sign to rescue a drowning man.

“So it is with torture,” Colson wrote. “If a competent authority honestly believes [but what are the real facts? Peter said: “We must obey God rather than man.” “Those who are led by the Spirit are the children of God” – editor] that this was the only way to get information that might save the lives of thousands, I believe he would be justified.”

Entire Article Here

Related: Paul Craig Roberts: Torture and the American Conscience — Most white ‘Christian’ evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture

Why the h*** should I feel sorry, says girl soldier who abused Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison

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On June 14, 2009

In BIG Pharma, The Soul of America, Torture

From: Mail Online

In this deeply disturbing interview, the trailer trash torturer who appalled the world by appearing in shocking ‘souvenir’ photographs remains utterly unrepentant and says she has 800 MORE torture photos that could rock the White House

. . . . .

…‘sorry’, it becomes clear, is not in Lynndie England’s vocabulary.

When we speak, three things strike me: her breathtaking lack of contrition; her unsuitability to have been a serving soldier and her utter indifference towards the horrifically abused prisoners at Abu Ghraib, 90 per cent of whom were later released without charge.

Since no established biographer would touch her life story (it was even dropped by the literary agent who handled O.J. Simpson’s widely reviled book, If I Did It) her biography has been penned by a greenhorn local author, Gary Winkler. …

‘I just don’t think she’s a very deep person,’ Winkler, a white-bearded former musician in his late 50s, concludes miserably.

‘Lynndie only has two moods: bored and p****d off.’

During our first meeting, when she yawns through my questions, I see what he means.

Two days later, however, perhaps enlivened by the anti-depressant tablets upon which she relies, England is more animated….

Full article here

Paul Craig Roberts: Torture and the American Conscience — Most white ‘Christian’ evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture

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On June 4, 2009

In Barack Obama, Ethics, False Christians Trashing America, George Bush Family, Ron Paul, The Soul of America, Torture

From: Lew Rockwell

Torture is a violation of US and international law. Yet, president George W. Bush and vice president Dick Cheney, on the basis of legally incompetent memos prepared by Justice Department officials, gave the OK to interrogators to violate US and international law.

The new Obama administration shows no inclination to uphold the rule of law by prosecuting those who abused their offices and broke the law.

Cheney claims, absurdly, that torture was necessary in order to save American cities from nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists. Many Americans have bought the argument that torture is morally justified in order to make terrorists reveal where ticking nuclear bombs are before they explode.

However, there were no hidden ticking nuclear bombs. Hypothetical scenarios were used to justify torture for other purposes.

We now know that the reason the Bush regime tortured its captives was to coerce false testimony that linked Iraq and Saddam Hussein to al Qaeda and September 11. Without this “evidence,” the US invasion of Iraq remains a war crime under the Nuremberg standard.

Torture, then, was a second Bush regime crime used to produce an alibi for the illegal and unprovoked US invasion of Iraq.

U.S. Representative Ron Paul (R, Tx) understands the danger to Americans of permitting government to violate the law. In “Torturing the Rule of Law,” he said that the US government’s use of torture to produce excuses for illegal actions is the most radicalizing force at work today. “The fact that our government engages in evil behavior under the auspices of the American people is what poses the greatest threat to the American people, and it must not be allowed to stand.”

One might think that the American public’s toleration of torture reflects the breakdown of the country’s Christian faith. Alas, a recent poll released by the Pew Forum reveals that most white Christian evangelicals and white Catholics condone torture. In contrast, only a minority of those who seldom or never attend church services condone torture.

It is a known fact that torture produces unreliable information. The only purpose of torture is to produce false confessions. The fact that a majority of American Christians condone torture enabled the Bush regime’s efforts to legalize torture.

George Hunsinger, professor at Princeton Theological Seminary, has stepped into the Christian void with a powerful book, Torture is a Moral Issue.

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Related:

2005-6 Gallup Poll: Protestants and Frequent Churchgoers Most Supportive of Iraq War — Least supportive are non-Christians and people with no religion

Reverse-Christian George W. Bush: ‘D##n right’ I personally ordered waterboarding

Bush Signed Executive Order Authorizing Torture—FBI Email

Judge Napolitano: Bush should have been indicted for “torturing, for spying, for arresting without warrant”

Horrific Torture Report Shows Why Much Of The World Considers America To Be The Nazis Of The 21st Century

Bush and Cheney Blast CIA Torture Report — “Just a crock” – Cheney // CIA officers “are patriots, and whatever the report says, if it diminishes their contributions to our country, it is way off base” – Bush

Reverse Christianity: Chuck Colson Supports Torture!

Jesse Ventura on torture: “Never let the camel get its nose under the tent”

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On June 1, 2009

In Ethics, Torture, War

“There’s an old saying…. ‘You never let the camel get its nose under the tent.’ …

If a camel gets his nose under the tent, rest assured eventually the whole body is going to get in the tent. It’s inevitable. …

It’s not just Guantamo. We tortured them in Iraq.

And think of this for a moment: we’re the invaders.

We invaded Iraq, and then we torture people after we invade?”

– Jesse Ventura

Transcribed by Jeff Fenske from:

The Alex Jones Show – L I V E – June 1st With Jesse Ventura

Prisonplanet.tv
Monday, June 1, 2009

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Pat Robertson Supports Torture? Who Would Jesus Torture?

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On May 23, 2009

In False Christians Trashing America, Pat Robertson, The End of America?, The Soul of America, Torture

Elders’ Qualifications from:

<< 1 Timothy 3 >>
World English Bible

2 The overseer therefore MUST be without reproach,* the husband of one wife, temperate, sensible, modest, hospitable, good at teaching; 3 not a drinker, not violent [no striker – KJV], not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous …. 7 Moreover he must have good testimony from those who are outside, to avoid falling into reproach and the snare of the devil.

*Blameless – KJV. Certainly an overseer must be going to heaven, himself. See: Who-Goes-To-Heaven Scriptures — Narrow is the Way

Christianliberal just made this comment in the preceding post, Conservative radio host, Mancow, gets waterboarded to prove the technique isn’t torture, and lasts six seconds before saying waterboarding is “ABSOLUTELY TORTURE”. Since Pat Robertson is such a key evangelical figure, I decided to make this a separate post.

It’s kinda SAD that the right has taken up the banner of torture.

I saw Pat Robertson on TV yesterday and he was defending Dick Cheney’s torture stance.

I have always respected Robertson as a religious leader, but he has lost his spiritual compass when he condones such treatment.

What happened to family values?

Who would Jesus torture?

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Conservative radio host, Mancow, gets waterboarded to prove the technique isn’t torture, and lasts six seconds before saying waterboarding is “ABSOLUTELY TORTURE”

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On May 23, 2009

In Torture

From: Raw Story

Chicago radio host Erich “Mancow” Muller decided he’d get himself waterboarded to prove the technique wasn’t torture.

It didn’t turn out that way. “Mancow,” in fact, lasted just six or seven seconds before crying foul. …

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“I wanted to prove it wasn’t torture,” Mancow said. “They cut off our heads, we put water on their face…I got voted to do this but I really thought ‘I’m going to laugh this off.’ “

The upshot? “It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that’s no joke,” Mancow told listeners. “It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back…It was instantaneous…and I don’t want to say this: absolutely torture.”

“Absolutely. I mean that’s drowning,” he added later. “It is the feeling of drowning.”

“If I knew it was gonna be this bad, I would not have done it,” he said.

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Ron Paul’s AMAZING Speech: Current Conditions or Just a Bad Dream – 5/19/09

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On May 21, 2009

In $Money$ ToBeFree, America's Getting Jacked!, Ethics, Inflation$$$$$$, Lying, Ron Paul, The Soul of America, Torture, War

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“Could it all be a bad dream, or a nightmare? Is it my imagination, or have we lost our minds?

It’s surreal; it’s just not believable. A grand absurdity; a great deception, a delusion of momentous proportions; based on preposterous notions; and on ideas whose time should never have come; simplicity grossly distorted and complicated; insanity passed off as logic; grandiose schemes built on falsehoods with the morality of Ponzi and Madoff; evil described as virtue; ignorance pawned off as wisdom; destruction and impoverishment in the name of humanitarianism; violence, the tool of change; preventive wars used as the road to peace; tolerance delivered by government guns; reactionary views in the guise of progress; an empire replacing the Republic; slavery sold as liberty; excellence and virtue traded for mediocracy; socialism to save capitalism; a government out of control, unrestrained by the Constitution, the rule of law, or morality; bickering over petty politics as we collapse into chaos; the philosophy that destroys us is not even defined.

We have broken from reality–a psychotic Nation. Ignorance with a pretense of knowledge replacing wisdom. Money does not grow on trees, nor does prosperity come from a government printing press or escalating deficits.

We’re now in the midst of unlimited spending of the people’s money, exorbitant taxation, deficits of trillions of dollars–spent on a failed welfare/warfare state; an epidemic of cronyism; unlimited supplies of paper money equated with wealth.

A central bank that deliberately destroys the value of the currency in secrecy, without restraint, without nary a whimper. Yet, cheered on by the pseudo-capitalists of Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and Detroit.

We police our world empire with troops on 700 bases and in 130 countries around the world. A dangerous war now spreads throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. Thousands of innocent people being killed, as we become known as the torturers of the 21st century.

We assume that by keeping the already-known torture pictures from the public’s eye, we will be remembered only as a generous and good people. If our enemies want to attack us only because we are free and rich, proof of torture would be irrelevant.

The sad part of all this is that we have forgotten what made America great, good, and prosperous. We need to quickly refresh our memories and once again reinvigorate our love, understanding, and confidence in liberty. The status quo cannot be maintained, considering the current conditions. Violence and lost liberty will result without some revolutionary thinking.

We must escape from the madness of crowds now gathering. The good news is the reversal is achievable through peaceful and intellectual means and, fortunately, the number of those who care are growing exponentially.

Of course, it could all be a bad dream, a nightmare, and that I’m seriously mistaken, overreacting, and that my worries are unfounded. I hope so. But just in case, we ought to prepare ourselves for revolutionary changes in the not-too-distant future.”

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